Wagner helped the Pirates to the first World Series title in their franchise history in 1909. But still the lore continues on. Learn about how to make the most of a memorial. He was, however, very fast as a base runner and as a defensive player. The encapsulated card was rated as only a 2 on a scale to 10. [43], On April 6, 2013, a 190911 T206 baseball card featuring Honus Wagner sold at auction for $2.1 million. After gaining prominence on the sandlots while earning his livelihood as a barber, Mr. Wagner broke into professional baseball in 1895 with the Steubenville (Ohio) club. Reader wrote that, "It is not at all uncommon to find T206 examples that have been altered at some point during their near-century of existence. [38][39] Wagner had been at the top of his game throughout the decade and was even considered the game's greatest player at the time. Wagner and the Pirates would prevail in the seven games World Series. The stamp was issued as part of a "Legends of Baseball" series that honored 20 all-time greats in conjunction with MLB's All-Century team. PITTSBURGH, Tuesday, Dec. 8 (AP) - John (Honus) Wagner, one of baseball's greatest shortstops died today at his home in near-by Carnegie. He played for the love of playing and his interest in baseball survived his playing days and he retained his active connections until the very end. There is a problem with your email/password. For the bowlegged man from coal country, he was pretty fast on his feet. Wagner, along with his famous baseball card, was one of the earliest athletes to make the crossover into pop culture film. #MLBRank Exploring the greatness of Honus Wagner and Lou Gehrig - ESPN Well compare him to Wagner, Vaughn and Rodriquez as an offensive player: Jeter was not a match for any of the three as an offensive or defensive player. Card of the Day: 1936 R312 Honus Wagner and Arky Vaughan Remove advertising from a memorial by sponsoring it for just $5. Honus Wagner's 1939 Hall of Fame wristwatch up for bid at Heritage "Pitching in a Pinch." 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Now, this choice was not as outrageous as Wulfs, because this was a fan vote and Ripken was winding down on a brilliant career, but they also placed Ernie Banks second. The numbers shown below are the figures officially recognized on MLB.com. }, Cronkite School at ASU Throughout his career one of the outstanding features about Mr. Wagner was his vitality. Although in recent years Mr. Wagner remained confined to his home in Carnegie, honors continued to be showered upon him. "He was clearly among the better-fielding shortstops of his time, just not an all-time great." Bill James, though, in his New Historical Baseball Abstract, wrote, "Wagner was among the greatest defensive players in the history of baseball." James's . In desperation, owner Barney Dreyfuss offered him $10,000 per year, making him the highest-paid Pirate for many years. A T206 Wagner Honus Wagner baseball card sold for $6.606 million, which includes a 20% buyer's premium, early Monday morning, shattering the record for highest-selling sports card of all time. My friend said that he'd like to be president of the United States. Tommy Leach recounted his impressions of joining the Louisville club in 1898 with hopes of winning the starting job at third base: I hardly had time to get settled before it hits me that this guy the Louisville club had at third base was practically doing the impossible. He notes that the league ERA of 2.35 was the lowest of the dead-ball era and about half of the ERAs of modern baseball. Biography Johannes Peter Wagner, named for his father, was born on February 24, 1874. [40] He had appeared on advertisements for a number of other products such as chewing gum, gunpowder, and soft drinks. He starred as a sports hero in 1919's Spring Fever with Moe Howard and Shemp Howard of the Three Stooges,[26] and has been depicted as the subject of The Winning Season (2004) and in a brief scene in Cobb (1994). He led in almost every significant category through those years. This relationship is not possible based on lifespan dates. Wagner, agile though massively built, excelled at fielding; he also led the National League five times in stolen bases. Runs were harder to come by in his time than any other. Becoming a Find a Grave member is fast, easy and FREE. Following the 1899 season, the NL contracted from twelve to eight teams, with the Colonels one of four teams eliminated. Wagner and Cobb would go hunting that off-season in Georgia. Thanks for using Find a Grave, if you have any feedback we would love to hear from you. He led the National League eight times, 1900, 1903, 1904, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909 and 1911. He would steal 6 bases while Cobb only took 2. 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[31] The ATC ended production of the Wagner card and a total of only 57 to 200 cards were ever distributed to the public, as compared to the "tens or hundreds of thousands" of T206 cards, over three years in 16 brands of cigarettes, for any other player. This site is using Cloudflare and adheres to the Google Safe Browsing Program. It was accepted by his daughter, Mrs. Harry Blair. When he fielded grounders, his huge hands also collected large scoops of infield dirt, which accompanied his throws to first like the tail of a comet.[11]. Thats 80 years of history that they know very little about. Honus Wagner, a Family History Researcher and Baseball He managed and played for a semi-pro team. The card came with Sister Virginia Muller's brother's handwritten note: "Although damaged, the value of this baseball card should increase exponentially throughout the 21st century! This account has been disabled. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of Honus Wagner (1065)? Please reset your password. In mint condition or as close to mint condition as you can get for a card that appeared in cigarette packs more than 100 . Please enter your email and password to sign in. In 1932, the Pirates struck gold again at shortstop, bringing in rookie Arky Vaughan, who many consider the second best shortstop ever behind Honus Wagner. Ty Cobb: The truth about the greatest baseball player of all-time, MLB: Why We'll Never See a 300-Game Winner Again. During this time, he wore uniform number 14 but later changed it to his more famous 33, which was later the number retired for him. The 1920-1929 Yankees had Hall of Famers; Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Tony Lazzeri, Earl Combs, pitchers Waite Hoyt and Herb Pennock. Mathewson felt that the only way to keep Wagner from hitting was not to pitch to him.[28]. Please contact Find a Grave at [emailprotected] if you need help resetting your password. Flowers added to the memorial appear on the bottom of the memorial or here on the Flowers tab. The Pirates have relocated twice since then, and the statue has come along with them. The card, which was in poor condition, sold in November 2010 to a collector for $262,000, well over the $150,000 that was expected at auction. He repeated the feat in 1902, 1907, and 1909. And the question of the greatest shortstop of all time is a clear example of that. Wagner would struggle through the Depression when his sporting good store, Wagner, went under. Wagner was born one of 9 children in the heart of American coal country in western Pennsylvania on February 24, 1874. (Subsequent research has since revised this total to 3,418.) We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, and wants help, call or visit: (a) the Council on Compulsive Gambling of New Jersey at 1-800-Gambler or www.800gambler.org; or (b) Gamblers Anonymous at 855-2-CALL-GA or www.gamblersanonymous.org. Especially playing in his hometown, Wagner represented what his city was. Omissions? He led the National League seven times at bat and he was always up with the leaders when he was in his forties. That is way too low. In 2000, Wagner was honored with a U.S. postage stamp. Why the Movie Hoosiers was Nowhere Near as Good as the True Story of Milan 1954, Memphis Grizzlies provide injury update on Ja Morant, Top 10 Greatest Shooters in Indiana Hoosier Basketball History, Top 10 Most Disappointing Losses in Indiana Hoosiers Basketball History, Top 10 Indiana Hoosier Basketball Wins of all time, MLB All-Time Steroid Team: Position by position, with a Few Backups.