I duplicate these velocities using the Lyman #358311 round-nosed bullet with 2.5 grains of HP38, or for even easier shooting loads at about 100 fps less, I go with the same charge of Hodgdons Trail Boss. 2 was a British top-break revolver chambered for a .38/200 cartridge. The Colt New Police round is the same, except using a flat nose lead boolit instead of RNL in S&W version. Manufactured from 1932 to 1957, the Enfield No. This Colt was manufactured in 1923 and remains in very good condition. The reason is that all 38 S&W and Colt 38 New Police cartridges were made with 146gr. After World War I the British Government had determined that the .38 caliber sidearm was a better choice than the .45 due to its reduced recoil. During World War II, more than 500,000 pistols were supplied to the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada under the Lend-Lease program. No purchase necessary. Manufacturer: COLT Model: OLD MODEL DETECTIVE SPECIAL, POLICE POSITIVE SPECIAL Product #: 1970900 $193.35 Add to Cart Add to My Saved Parts Eligible for FREE shipping * Barrel, .38 Spec, 2", Nickel Manufacturer: COLT Model: POLICE POSITIVE SPECIAL, OLD MODEL DETECTIVE SPECIAL Product #: 1185870 $76.17 Add to Cart Add to My Saved Parts A forum community dedicated to Colt firearm owners and enthusiasts. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Exclusive deals, discounts, new product launches, coupon codes and more. RNFP Cowboy ammo clocked a hair under 800 fps from our century-old PPS. NONE OF THESE are the correct cartridge. Up for bid is a vintage 2 piece box that contains 48 rounds of 38 Colt New Police ammuntion. This is 5 shots at 25 yards. The Remington 130-gr. Courier: This was a 3-inch version of the first-issue Agent chambered in .32 Colt/S&W and .22 LR. Here are the collectible offspring of the decidedly noncollected Colt Police Positive. It was manufactured from 1908 to 1970 in three issues, and then reintroduced briefly in 1995. Detective Special: This is Colts classic snubbie. Real world users of firearms and ammunition need to know how the ammunition is performing in the real world, where it matters. Hopefully, we can serve you all. 33-1 revolver. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. At $15.00 a box I couldn't leave them pass. In 1877, Smith & Wesson introduced .38 S&W (9x20mm) ammunition designed for its First Model, a single action, spur-triggered revolver. Hottest .38S&W ammo available. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Most collectible Colt double-action revolvers of the second half of the 20th century are based to one extent or another on the Police Positive. Tippit later that day. Buffalo Bore. We NEVER have and never will take ammo exchanges or returns and then turn around and re-sale that ammo to unsuspecting customers as factory new ammothis is not safe nor is it fair to customers who are buying what they think is new and safe ammo. The firearm, when fully loaded, weighed less than a pound, and its three-inch barrel was the perfect size to be carried in a gentlemans coat pocket or a ladys purse. Finally, I sold it back to Phillip Peterson, who took pity on me and gave me 30 percent of what I originally paid him for it. Contest void where prohibited by law. The end of the war did not dampen sales of the M&P. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. The Remington FMJs? Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or when will my ammo ship? North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: All shooters are being inconvenienced with what is happening to our society and the rush it is causing on ammo supplies. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Your ammo will arrive at the same time if you track it or not and will certainly arrive later if we are swamped answering questions instead of getting orders shipped. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. The first issue of the Police Positive was manufactured from 1907 to 1927. Colt Police Positive, 38 Colt New Police, 99% Factory Finish, Perfect bore, Vintage Firearms In Gun #: 937088314 Seller: Vintage Firearms Inc ( FFL) GA Sales: 312 $895.00 Full Details More from this Seller 7 Image (s) COLT POLICE POSITIVE 1ST MODEL - MINT CONDITION Gun #: 911293523 Seller: misterluger ( FFL) GA Sales: 492 $950.00 Full Details These are all nice guns, but really, now. The company, a rival of Smith & Wesson, produced a top-break revolver known as the Hammerless Safety Front or Safety Automatic, often referred to as the New Model. Nice original bluing, but has light flecking of pitting over the overall finish. It was manufactured from 1905 to 1941. (I) Giveaway ends April 30, 2023. Dan passed away in April 2011. When the crowd erupted, Roosevelt quickly took charge of the situation by yelling, "Quiet! Factory warranties may apply in some cases. The First Model has a six-inch barrel and a free-standing ejector rod without the under-barrel latch popular in later models. Worth the effort to find/get ammo and shoot it a bit.Be nice to it and clean it up good after shooting,you can give it to your son some day. While it is widely debated that former U.S. Marine Lee Harvey Oswald pulled the trigger on that day, it is known that he murdered Dallas Police Officer J.D. New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. I have 2 of those rounds and will fire them out of my 2" Bankers Special to see what velocity they get. It was used alongside the S&W Victory Model as well as the Webley Mk IV. In 1899, the United States military placed large orders with Smith & Wesson for their Model 1899 Hand Ejector revolvers chambered for the .38 Long Colt U.S. Service Cartridge. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Remington, Winchester and Fiocchi make 38 S&W ammunition safe for your firearm. Depending on how much clothing must be penetrated and how much bone is encountered, expect 22 to 30 inches of straight-line penetration in mammalian tissue with this load. DOES BBA MAKE AMMO TO SAAMI SPECIFICATIONS? An offshoot of the Police Positive Special, the classic Detective Special is probably the most famous Colt D-Frame. The Battle of the Little Bighorn still captures our attention almost 150 years later. The .380 British, .38/200, .38 Colt New Police and .38 S&W are the same round. I wanted to at least make an attempt to stay within the bullet weight parameters of what was in vogue when the gun was made. (I) Giveaway ends July 31, 2023. Strictly big bore. If the gun is chambered for .38 Colt new Police, it will shoot the .38 S&W cartridge. In fact, they rave about it. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. At the time, the .38 S&W round, a 200 grain lead bullet (.38/200 or the .38 Super Police), was popular among the U.S. military as well as civilians. Doctors later decided that the .38 bullet was embedded too close to Roosevelts heart, and therefore, was unsafe to operate. President Garfield died on September 19, 1881. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM June 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. It also became a popular choice among civilians. The .41 Magnum was supposed to but has never quite made it. In 1957, to distinguish different models of firearms, S&W began to mark their models with numeric designations. One of these .38 S&W-chambered sixguns came with three boxes of ammunition and I was even able to find 500 rounds of new Starline brass. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: It's basically a round-butted Police Positive Special chambered in .32 Colt or .38 Special with a 2-inch barrel. Nonetheless, it is a solid, accurate and. We have utilized flash suppressed powder so the shooter will not be blinded by his/her own gunfire in low light situations and this can be an important advantage as the criminal element and wildlife are much more active in the darkness. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: . After all, theyre the best kind. The gun was designed primarily for law enforcement agencies. Encountering this revolver in the handgun case of a local gun shop was totally unexpected. Colt police positive target double action revolver .22 long rifle, 6" barrel, in really good condition s/n: 36763 Please call (530) 768-1111 for information or to purchase. Viper: Basically an alloy-framed version of the Police Positive Special chambered in .38 Special, this was made from 1977 to 1984. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Like the previous model, barrels could be purchased in 4-inch, 5-inch, 6-inch, and 6.5-inch lengths. Smith & Wessons Model 10 (top) is larger and heavier than Colts Police Positive Special (bottom). Match Wadcutter and Remington 130-gr. Bore remains good but needs a good cleaning. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The Smith & Wesson Model 10 came into existence in 1899. No purchase necessary. Iver Johnson was a motorcycle and bicycle manufacturer from 1871 to 1993. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. The only two top break (not solid frame) revolver manufacturers that can use this ammunition are British Enfield and Webley. Sign-up now to get more revolver content every Wednesday! When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Colt made minor adjustments to avoid crediting S&W with the round. If you are able to find ammo and discover you like shooting the revolver you may have to reconsider you position on reloading. The firearm remained in use by the Air National Guard throughout Operation Desert Storm in 1991, and with U.S. Navy security teams until 1995. Smith & Wesson would produce approximately 800,000 Top-Breaks in their .38 cartridge and these pocket pistols were exceptionally popular for several decades on both sides of 1900. Later that year, reports from troops in the Philippines were filled with complaints on the ineffectiveness of the round. Early production samples had a plain topstrap, but later ones had a matte topstrap. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. Heres a by-the-numbers packability comparison the unloaded weight of a 4 K-Frame Smith Model 10 is 30.5 oz.